Classic models are also made in Germany but some of the case parts come from the Schimmel plant in Poland. Schimmels are excellent quality and a 16 year old Schimmel treated well and kept in good condition is unlikely to show much of any kind of wear. Some names make a big deal out of that but IMHO it's more marketing than reality. All or nearly all piano bridges are made of laminated wood some are further topped by a solid piece but that is not too common. The tech should know better than to call it plywood. There are too many red flags.įor reassurance, regarding the bridge, it's called laminated, not plywood. Was this piano at a beach house or close to a river or lake? Or somewhere "down south?" It's a real shame that the owner of a K169 didn't see fit to take care of it. Based on your technician's observations, the piano was in a high humidity environment for a long time, and subject to swings. In the video the K175 seems as fine as the K195:īuild quality is not the problem. But yesterday I heard a newly uploaded video by classic pianos.
For the price I seek for more accordance of tone and touch with the full sized concert model. I think there are always people who have limited room to place the piano and this size is especially fit for them (to me a larger grand in a small room is not good for practice). ( do not understand why ? )Well, there's nothing wrong with the 169/175s I played, but their dynamic range were shallower and their sounds tenser and less fabulous compared to the bigger ones of the same series. When ever I look at used pianos I always come across these ruined pianos. The practice pedal was broken and just dumped inside the piano. The condition of this piano I think just makes it really not worth considering. The review by the pianist contributor to Piano Buyer is however quite impressive. When I tried to close the fallboard it just would not close properly, it seemed as though it was warped ! I remember I once went to look at a used Seiler SE upright ( made in Germany upright) from 2012. Wish there has already been improvement of this model, because there're other makes which do greater job at this length (even shorter).The review by the pianist contributor to Piano Buyer is however quite impressive. For the K195 and above, it is a different world. The problem is - we really like the sound of the piano!Īre we asking for trouble here by buying this piano? Or are some of the things listed "normal?" The keyslip gap especially is concerning as we were told it would be very, very difficult to fix.Īny feedback would be appreciated! Thank you.įrom my experience (if not out of date, because it has been 3-4 years since I played Schimmel grands last time), the shortest model of Schimmel Konzert grand (K169 in the past and K175 thereafter) didn't give me what I expected that much. The technician's general impression is that the quality of the build doesn't correspond to the class category that the piano is supposed to be in. The key tops seem to be not well finished. Bridge made out of plywood vs solid wood.ĥ. Some corrosion on the duplex scale as well.Ĥ. "Unusual amount of corrosion" on treble strings. If there is any more warping, the middle keys would be stuck.Ģ. It is warped to the point that the gap in the middle keys is only a very small sliver (5/1000th of an inch) while at either ends, it's 1/16th of an inch. We had our piano technician do an evaluation and he came back with the following concerns:ġ. Also we read on this forum that generally pianos made by Schimmel considered to be of good quality. We are looking to purchase a grand piano under 6' and really liked a 2004 Schimmel K169T for its rich sound.